paintballdude05 wrote:Ryan (sneke_eyez) has EGR on his '02 ES IRC.
Close, but while my car came with EGR, I deleted it because I could not find a 2002 Special PCM with EGR with side airbags for sale for a reasonable price. The one yard I found with a 2002 Special PCM that supposedly had EGR was from a car that did not have side airbags and having side airbags was more important to me than EGR.
Other than finding the one EGR PCM at a yard when I was looking, I was told by several dealers that 2002 Specials with EGR did exist. TFC also confirmed this back when I spoke to him, but he didn't have any to sell me.
As a result, I've never seen an EGR 02 PCM in person. But, that's not something I generally check for when I see a 2002 Special in the yard, nor is it something I am seeking. My non-EGR ES runs great.
Gorm wrote:Might just have to give this another try. Found out the local gas station had been selling 87E10 under the 89 sticker for the last month and a half...Iowa AG looking into the issue. Apparently someone switched the pipeline and they didn't bother to change the stickers at half the stations they serve. Started using 91 non-ethanol as the only other option now is 87E10. Now I can chirp the tires with my current 2003 Special computer WITHOUT removing traction control.
As far as your comments, Gorm, I have never done the swap from a 2003/4 Special PCM to a 2002 Special PCM, but I have certainly driven my 02 ES with the 2002 Special PCM, engine harness, and plenum, back-to-back with my 04 Special and the difference is night and day. Much firmer shifts, much later shifts, and a heck of a lot more power on tap, including the ability to spin the sticky Exclaims on my 20'' SRTs with it punched wide open as it shifts. My butt dyno tells me its a different motor entirely even though I know its lying!
Now granted, the ES has an intake spacer and the Special does not, but I don't think that's enough to change the feel of the car entirely...
I also drove a 99 PHP car briefly and had an opportunity to hotrod it a bit and in thinking about that ride, it doesn't seem like it was quite as quick or quite as punchy as my ES. But, that was years ago when my ES's 3.5 was still non-HO, so take that for what you will.