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 #219983  by 300maximilien
 March 16th, 2010, 6:46 pm
Maximus wrote:Well I picked up my clay bar today at K-Mart. I had to buy a kit from Maguires that included 2 clay bars and a spray bottle of detailer and a cloth and a little wax. I will post it. I only wanted the clay bar but oh well the stores where I live suck bad.

I am going to try it on the hood this saturday to see how it works. I have no experience with it. If it works well I will do the whole car.
If you have no experience with Clay I would recommend a less conspicuous area first such as the bottom of a door to practice
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 #219996  by LUNAT1C
 March 16th, 2010, 8:15 pm
It's not difficult to use. Wash and dry the car, then spray detail spray on the area you are working on. Lightly rub the clay on the lubed area (just enough pressure to move it freely). Once you feel no more resistance, clean the lube off the paint with a microfiber towel (Meg's kit provides one of their great towels) and move on to the next section. I separate the hood into six sections, the roof into nine (five if you have a sunroof) and the top of the trunklid into three. Use that frame of reference to judge how to separate the rest of the panels of the car. Save the very bottom for dead last, as it is the dirtiest. Basically use 1.5x1.5 foot sections, and do it out of the sun to avoid evaporation of the lube.
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 #220016  by miska_man
 March 16th, 2010, 11:07 pm
Can you use a clay bar on rims? I have some nasty tar and some other stuff caked on in several spots and it wont wash off.
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 #220017  by 300maximilien
 March 16th, 2010, 11:11 pm
miska_man wrote:Can you use a clay bar on rims? I have some nasty tar and some other stuff caked on in several spots and it wont wash off.
From a Clay Bar website
Today, professional detailers and body shops use clay bars as a simple, safe way to remove over spray and surface contaminants from painted surfaces, including chrome and glass.
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 #220345  by Maximus
 March 20th, 2010, 6:35 pm
OMG!!! I used the clay bar today for the first time. WOW WOW WOW
I thought my car was clean.....Man I turned over the bar after a few seconds and it was greenish black with crud.....
I did my hood roof and rear deck. Going to finish the rest tomorrow. I could not take pictures because both hands were working. I will shoot some tomorrow when done.

I know I am bias, but the RED is an awsome color for the M's. The red gets so shinny and bright in the sun light you cant look at it, even after 10 years.

How many times should I use the clay bar
Once a year twice a year how many is wise??
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 #220348  by 300man86
 March 20th, 2010, 7:27 pm
Maximus wrote:OMG!!! I used the clay bar today for the first time. WOW WOW WOW
I thought my car was clean.....Man I turned over the bar after a few seconds and it was greenish black with crud.....
I did my hood roof and rear deck. Going to finish the rest tomorrow. I could not take pictures because both hands were working. I will shoot some tomorrow when done.

I know I am bias, but the RED is an awsome color for the M's. The red gets so shinny and bright in the sun light you cant look at it, even after 10 years.

How many times should I use the clay bar
Once a year twice a year how many is wise??

I would say about 2-4 times a year depending on where you live.
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 #377975  by Katzchen78
 February 28th, 2019, 9:17 pm
I had never heard of such a crazy thing as rubbing clay on a car until last year. I was SHOCKED!!!! Now I can't stand the thought of my car looking so rough. I am needing to clean her up again next week. I noticed several people mentioned certain brands. Looks like this thread was several years ago. Just wanted to see if anything new has come out or if the old best is still the best today. Thoughts on clay bar brands?
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 #377978  by In-trepid
 February 28th, 2019, 10:12 pm
I think that the best clay bar is Zaino clay bar. The other brands tend to get a bit mushy and start breaking down easily. Make sure that you don't clay any freshly painted areas for a little while.
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 #377980  by FIREM
 February 28th, 2019, 10:42 pm
In-trepid wrote: February 28th, 2019, 10:12 pm I think that the best clay bar is Zaino clay bar. The other brands tend to get a bit mushy and start breaking down easily. Make sure that you don't clay any freshly painted areas for a little while.
I Know Zaino Z-18 is the best, longest lasting Clay Bar!
 #377984  by 00R/T
 March 1st, 2019, 6:36 am
FIREM wrote:
In-trepid wrote: February 28th, 2019, 10:12 pm I think that the best clay bar is Zaino clay bar. The other brands tend to get a bit mushy and start breaking down easily. Make sure that you don't clay any freshly painted areas for a little while.
I Know Zaino Z-18 is the best, longest lasting Clay Bar!
I’m not as dedicated a fan of Zaino stuff as some of you guys, but I do agree that their clay is some of the best I’ve used.

On the other side, I strongly recommend staying away from Chemical Guys clay. I like and regularly use several of their products, but the clay is absolute junk. Even with their dedicated clay lube, it was super grabby and left a residue. I did about half the car and couldn’t stand it any more. I dug through my detailing cabinet and found an unopened Adams bar that was probably close to 10 years old. I unwrapped that and grabbed my regular detail spray (chemical guys, actually) and it was night and day.
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 #377991  by beespecial
 March 1st, 2019, 1:40 pm
I'm a big fan of the Zaino products. After the first time I clayed my car with it, I was amazed at how smooth the paint felt. That was the first time I had ever tried clay on the paint. I'd never heard of it either. Now it's a yearly springtime ritual.
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 #377998  by LUNAT1C
 March 1st, 2019, 4:30 pm
I guess I'll run against the grain a bit. I have used clay bars from the store-bought versions of Meguiar's, Mothers, and Griot's, as well as Zaino's product.

Far and away, the Griot's was the worst to work with. It was very grabby, and absolute trash. I used it once, then found bits of it stuck in various nooks and crannies on the car. Never again.

The best of that type of clay that I have used is Meguiar's. Very easy to work with and gives a good result. After Meguiar's, I'd say it's split between Mothers and Zaino. Zaino produces a better "clean", but I found it harder to work with.

The past few years I have not used a traditional clay bar. Rather, I have used Mother's SpeedClay. It's a synthetic product that comes with a built-in grip, and never needs kneeding. It can be dropped on the ground, washed off in the bucket, and continue to be used as normal, whereas traditional clay would have to be chucked at that point. It is very easy to use, produces a good clean and smooth surface for polish and wax, and can be used dozens of times before needing replacement.

Watching various professional detailers on YouTube using various products, something I will try this year is a clay mitt, or clay towel. Same principal as the SpeedClay from Mothers, but in a mitt or towel form factor. I've noticed the edges of the SpeedClay tend to deteriorate after a while and these new form factors should prevent any residue forming on the paint as I work on it.

I doubt I will go back to a traditional clay given the advantages of the synthetic clay.

Some advice: If you drop a traditional clay, THROW IT OUT, do not continue using it. The SpeedClay you just periodically wash in your wash bucket with traditional soap to clear it of whatever particles it pulls from the paint, or if you drop it. Most people use a spray detailer for clay lube. I stopped that practice a few years ago when I learned of the two-bucket wash method (one bucket with soap and water, and one bucket with plain water to rinse your wash mitt, keeping the soap and water wash bucket clear of dirt). After washing the car, my wash bucket is still clear of dirt, so I use what remains in that bucket or add some water to it, then dip my clay into the bucket and pull it out with liberal amounts of suds to use for lubrication. Same effect, less wasteful, and speeds things up since you don't have to wipe the panel, just rinse it off. It also washes the car again as you clay. Some detailers wash the car a second time after claying, so this method gives a little of that benefit while also saving time. Consequently, I don't actually dry the car until after I've washed it AND clayed it, unless I do a decon stage between washing and claying. Decon is using an iron remover to remove iron deposits and industrial fallout before moving ahead with clay. Typically requires a dry car to start with.

I will do clay once every two years. Same with polishing. The car doesn't get enough miles to warrant doing it annually like I would a daily driver. Another thing to remember with clay is that it has a tendency to induce swirls, so doing it more than once per year is ill-advised.