Scott, let's get a few things straight here....I have communicated with Gabguy pretty extensively. While I don't think this is the place to discuss this, I will bring up a few points.
He has admitted he made mistakes, to who. I didn't get a personal apology, I also haven't seen anything where he said "I'm sorry I made mistakes". I will not drink the punch he is selling, I will merely stay around to watch.
I have not attacked the new owner in any form on any site, I tried to show people at DInet what he was doing was all for $$$ thats all, so don't lump me in with the attackers and those that have done stuff to purposely be banned.
What you are coercing the 300M club into doing is almost as bad as what the people that provoke gabguy to purposely get banned do. A unnecessary wedge is being driven.
Poaching members has not happened, no one has forced anyone to leave DI.net, the people that have moved to LHF have made a conscious choice to move to a different home because they are not satisfied with the "upgrades" that have been made, the only person who may have forced them to leave DI was gabguy himself.
As I have said from the beginning, mistakes were made on both sides. I have PM's that if I were permitted to share would show you that he has in fact admitted that things could have been handled differently. I have not heard a single user over on LHF say the same thing.
Second, to say that he (Gabguy) is in it only for the money is not an accurate statement. He has told me on more than one occasion that he is not going to flip the site, that he is in it for the long haul. So far, he has done nothing but improve the speed of the site, and instuited rules that IMO, should have been in place from the beginning. Randy gave up on the site, and in fact, he was the one in it for the money as far as I'm concerned. If it wasn't for the money, then he would have taken a lesser offer from one of the other members that tried to buy it (like Steve) DI.NET isn't a charity, it has to make money to survive. You can opt out of the ads, and instructions are provided to do so. So, from my perspective, he has improved the infrastructure, which is the largest expense of a website.
Third, to claim that "poaching" wasn't going on...I can flat out tell you that is a lie. I have access to the proof over on DI.NET that would show that has indeed taken place. Yes, there are those that have found the site on their own. But some have not. I apologize if I seemed like I was lumping you in with the others...but at least you see that the others were doing some shady things. Again, I am sorry.
About the coercing, I take offense to this remark. I am hoping that Tim will chime in here, but I spoke to him about this, and this is what we decided to do. If Tim rethinks this, than I will be happy to support whatever he thinks is best. I did not, nor can not force someone to make a decision they do not want to make.
In closing, you think Gabguy made people leave. Perhaps he did...by his own admission, he made some mistakes. But there is more than enough blame to go around here....he (at least to me) has manned up to his mistakes, has anyone on LHF??
I respect you, Tim, and the rest of the 300M club's decision on the food at Carlisle manner.
One point (and if you would rather speak about this through email or PM, by all means delete this post and we can do so)...
Your statements about the members of LHForums.net are a very broad generalization. I was personally driven from DodgeIntrepid.net because when asked for my opinion in regard to the future direction of the site, I strongly disagreed with gabguy's actions. I do not think ads, ebay or otherwise were a wise choice. That place has become more of a billboard than an online car community. His plan may not be to flip the site immediately, but don't fool yourself into thinking the increased advertising, paid memberships, and general traffic do not line his pockets with money. He has yet to provide any plausible reason for buying the site aside from financial gain. My objections as a member of his staff to this and other policies got me de-modded and ultimately banned.
The idea of LHForums.net or something similar was in the works prior to gabguy's purchase of the site. As far back as Carlisle of 2006 there was discussion in regards to what was happening to the site. A number of us who I refuse to name were involved in a completely separate from , non-public project where we discussed the miss-direction of DodgeIntrepid.net. Eventually this project took off with gabguy's purchase of the site. LHForums.net was not created as a mission of sabotage, but rather as an evolved alternative to the mess that was going on at DodgeIntrepid.net both before and after gabguy's arrival.
Back to my original point, LHForums.net is not unlike any other online forum. There are a handful of angry conspiracy theorists who are interested in stirring up trouble, calling names, and causing problems. These members feel betrayed and are acting out of anger and frustration. Our staff at LHForums.net has been dealing with them, however we respect their frustration. As much as possible, personal threats and attacks have been deleted or the subject changed. These members, however, are the minority. There are far more of us who want nothing more than to have an alternative place to go about our business as usual.
Come Carlisle I will be representing LHForums.net and I feel as though we will have a very strong and inspired turnout. That does not, however, change my feelings about the members of the 300m Club or DodgeIntrepid.net. I refuse to believe it is necessary that we be segregated based on club affiliation. I am the same person I was 3 months ago (though slightly more responsible, now that I'm in the real world) as I'm sure you, Bruce, Tim, Kelly, Seb, Robert, etc all are the same people. I don't enjoy going to Carlisle because of the club affiliation, but rather because of the people that make up those clubs. We are friends and you "friends" mean no less to me now than you did 3 months ago despite the disagreements we've had on forum policies.
I apologize on behalf of the members of LHForums.net that have made any personal attacks and or rude comments regarding the 300M Club, DodgeIntrepid.net or either of their population of members. All 3 of the sites have a very strong, passionate, and at times opinionated member base and I don't think a little spat over rules should interfere with the common bond we all share.
I wish you guys luck in the planning of Carlisle and as always, if there is anything Jen or I can do to help out please let me know. I look forward to seeing all of you in approximately 219 days!