adu1982 wrote: ↑July 25th, 2019, 12:24 pm It amazes me though, that so many people still think that what he talks about is innovative. All this stuff is, is just logical evolution , to me at least. It is not sci fi or innovative to me anymore. Can't believe how cheap is getting to even automate your home. And yes I have jumped on that band wagon, and unlike my wife I have no qualms about security. I don't really care if somebody from China, or even a local hacker, can see me, as long I can see my cat live , while , on vacation, for 25$ per camera. At some point I'm sure I'll switch over to electric too if it is better and cheaper than gas. Compared to gas though, they are at the beginning of the road , so will see.well, it's still innovative til the rest catch up. no one else adds new stuff to the cars after buying. new manuals, constantly updating the auto pilot capability, etc.
Could might as well go busted, and something else replace it. It has happened plenty of times.
For right now I'm happy enough with our LHS getting close to 30mpg at 70mph for almost 500miles . Though a hybrid Pacifica might be nice too, but I digress.
I hope Musk is successful in the long run. I would love if we get to a point to where we don't, as a specie, fast track global warming and just let the planet to it's things as it did before human kind. Even if that means mining/destroying other planets. It's a human trait to innovate, develop and progress , hell even monkeys use tools to better their lives.
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nobody else yet comes close.
i too am happy enough with my lhs at the moment. i can't justify a new car for myself with the lack of driving i do.
but as the used market in them expands and relibility figures start to become more apparent, then choices can be made.
battery life is still an unknown factor in some models yet.
warranty for 8 years alleviates some fears, but most of our cars are 15-20 years old already.
although for some people who commute longer distances, with gas costs factored in with a car loan, a model 3 can be the same or cheaper than a less costly fossil vehicle. services in there too.
it shows in the trade ins at tesla dealers. not all are more premium cars being traded in.