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 #296931  by harrise
 
Well, the M still sits dormant since December 29th, 2012. Not sure where to begin with the troubleshooting when it's barely 20°F all day long. My garage is more dog house than work space. Narrow enough to require crawling out the passenger door when I did park in it. So the driveway it is. Eventually.

You see, I finally gave in to the hysteria that has overcome the nation and spent my repair money on a rifle. There has been way too much being said and bandied about that making any coherent sense of what action the guys in DC are really going to take is impossible. At the minimum I figure they'll be shooting for the pre-2004 ban as a foundation. Then I began reading the stuff trickling out of Feinstein's office and think, "no way the House will pass that". The thing that got me moving was Biden being "open" to the possibility of executive action to put things in place.

I think requiring a transfer/sale to take place at a licensed FFL dealer with a background check seems reasonable to me. Maybe even only allowing semi-automatic sales to take place face to face, just without a federal list. But lest I forget who the negotiators are. OI! Not to mention the emotional explosion larger than the Yellowstone super volcano eruption in the last month. The tides are right for enacting more stringent, "responsible", gun legislation.

So there she sits for another month or so. I need to plate her again too. Yeesh, my procrastinating gets me good sometimes.
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I'm not big fan of the semi-automatic rifles. Guess my tastes in aesthetics weigh heavily on what guns I like. So all I had for three years was my P220, and an old Mossberg .22lr bolt action. Then back during the holidays my grandpa began taking me along to the range near my place. He has a few guns and I got to shoot quite a variety of arms. The personal favorites being a PS90 and a 10/22 Takedown.

Sensing a bit more urgency as of late, I set out in wild eyed astonishment as dealers and ad prices spiked by 300% in some cases (FNH 5.7). It was obvious that anything with rails, 10+ mags, black and chambered in 5.56 would require stepping up on the budget. After missing a great deal on a CX4 that I was going to turn around and sell I went back to the gun that has been floating in my head for two years.

The Ruger Gunsite Scout rifle.
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Stupid checks in Colorado are still taking about a week. So MAYBE by Sunday I'll have something new to play with at the range. Heh, we've even got three more friends to sign up creating a new Sunday tradition in a matter of one empty mag. Think we popped off roughly 1,200 rounds yesterday. My guns are FILTHY. The club fees, extra magazines, the P11 and ammo are sure taking one helluva toll on this overheating issue. Not sure why I'm so hesitant, everything else I've managed to get done quickly with the resources here. Hope it's cheap!
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 #296934  by mabraham
 
I live in Connecticut, about 15 minutes away from the tragedy.
Ammo prices are absurd and the shelves are bare. A stripped lower is worth its weight in gold (almost literally). It seems all of the most popular websites have everything back ordered, and processing takes a week or two.
Every now and then the steel cased slavic crap shows up at walmart and flies off the shelf the same morning. That's really scary.

I suspect the prices will go back down sooner or later except for maybe black rifles and accessories. We may be headed for another AWB. Despite the recent tragedy I don't think the United States will be as welcoming to another AWB as we were was during the Clinton era. Were in a much more turbulent political climate. With fools on both sides like Piers Morgan and Ted Nugent, acting as spokespersons, who knows what we are going to end up with.
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 #296942  by TrueBlue
 
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2013/01 ... ny.html?hp

For us, it's already starting. They are pushing items like 7 rd. max capacities, two magazines maximum, registering of "assault weapons", and mental examinations of existing owners. They are actually circumventing the state constitution to rush this bill through, behind closed doors.
 #297219  by 300Michael
 
Lucky for me AZ is not in Crazy mode. Although gun sales are through the roof. I may go for one, not sure if I want a consealable one or a rilfe.
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 #297220  by 300maximilien
 
Semi Auto Shot Guns are a good choice in case of urban warfare
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 #297254  by mabraham
 
TrueBlue wrote:<span><a class="smarterwiki-linkify" href="http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2013/01 ... </a></span>

For us, it's already starting. They are pushing items like 7 rd. max capacities, two magazines maximum, registering of "assault weapons", and mental examinations of existing owners. They are actually circumventing the state constitution to rush this bill through, behind closed doors.
What has happened in your state is deplorable. A stock 10 round 10/22 mag loaded with anymore than 7 bullets is illegal. Anything that can hold more than 10 is outright banned retrospectively up to a year. A very high number of honest and law abiding gun owners became criminals overnight thanks to outstanding emotions and knee jerk legislation. Its a changed world.
I hope you are able to find some compliant mags for the AUG.
300Michael wrote:Lucky for me AZ is not in Crazy mode. Although gun sales are through the roof. I may go for one, not sure if I want a consealable one or a rilfe.
Buy both :D
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 #297272  by beespecial
 
NO ONE will dispute that what happened in Newtown was a horrible tragedy but the knee-jerk reaction of blaming guns is just stupid. Politicians rush around and push new legislation and the president trys to hand down his executive orders just so they'll look like they're doing something. They just keep chipping away at our individual rights. Are they next going to tell us we can have as many knives as we want but they can't be sharp?
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 #297280  by Chrysler1924
 
Having spent Christmas in Connecticut, not long after the incident in Newtown, I heard all this talk about the importance of gun-control laws. Sigh. While I do agree that legislation is important, it's also important to note that criminals are not very likely to OBEY said laws.

The town where I grew up, only 15 minutes from Newtown, is already discussing the half-million dollars in new security measures set to go in place for the next school year. There has been no mention of any increased efforts in monitoring the mental health of students exhibiting what may be considered "warning signs..."
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 #297287  by 300maximilien
 
It's the American way...bandage things uyrp instead of fixing the real issues.
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 #297289  by TrueBlue
 
mabraham wrote:What has happened in your state is deplorable. A stock 10 round 10/22 mag loaded with anymore than 7 bullets is illegal. Anything that can hold more than 10 is outright banned retrospectively up to a year. A very high number of honest and law abiding gun owners became criminals overnight thanks to outstanding emotions and knee jerk legislation. Its a changed world.
I hope you are able to find some compliant mags for the AUG.
Thanks, man. We're all letting the dust settle a bit while lawyers and the NRA are beginning both court cases and lawsuits. The bill was introduced at 11PM and the State Senate was given 20 minutes to vote on it. Cuomo violated not only the 2nd, but 4th and 14th Amendments in many people's eyes.

The original plan was CONFISCATION of the banned weapons in private citizen's hands. They do not want NY citizens to be armed, and the 7-rd limit is a defacto ban on many types of handguns and shotguns, as well as rifles.

Watch this video, it's only 51 seconds long.

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There is a LOT wrong with what he did, and I'm hopeful that the majority of this so-called SAFE act will be overturned. Rifles accounted for 2.5% of firearm murders in NYS in 2011, and that's ALL rifles, not just the evil "assault" rifle. This was a political move for Cuomo, plain and simple.
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 #297292  by Maximus
 
My wife and I just filled out all of the paperwork for hand guns. At the same time we are asked to list how many guns we want to own so we each put down 10. We need to go through all of the background checks.
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 #297293  by InfernoLime
 
As a Canadian, all you guys have it so well off. Handgun laws are ridiculous here.

And the "protect your castle" law something I think canada really needs.
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 #297407  by harrise
 
Bloomberg sent some of his guys out to meet with Hickenlooper last week. Then we've got the Aurora state reps making a lot of noise similar to Coumo and the overnight bill. Crazy stuff.

After waiting about six hours longer than they quoted me last week, it has finally come home. All signed up on "gun appreciation day" too!
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Since it's Sunday we might as call everyone up and get to the range. Two brand new rifles to break in today with my buddy's Howa. Gonna be a spendy day I fear. At least get one more in before focusing back on the car. Because the van oil pan gasket looks like that needs to happen later today or tomorrow. Pfft.
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 #297468  by TrueBlue
 
Nice piece! I like the furniture, what kind of wood is that?

Had a friend out this weekend, and had a good range day on Saturday. Got to shoot a variety of historical pieces from WWII through the Vietnam era to now. Mosin Nagant, K98, Walther P38, M1911 .45, SKS, AKM, 1100 Tactical, AUG. Ammo was shared freely and openly, as it should be. :)
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 #297469  by harrise
 
You know, I'm not exactly sure what kind of wood that is. They just call it "black laminate" everywhere I look. Maybe I'll email and ask, they seem to be Johnny-on-the-spot with questions.

We had a great day, only wishing for a bit more distance (25 yards max). Walking in escorted whilst carrying six pistols and six rifles gets some attention. A few guys knew exactly what I was shooting and wanted to check it out. After we fired the first two mags though, it WAS brand new. Everyone who shot it loved it. The wife showed us all up though and hit three straight bullseye shots in a row. She's the shooter in the group for sure, rivaling my grandpa. Recoil is down right amazing for a 16.5" barrel shooting that round. Not a hint that I shot 30 .308s yesterday. The irons at 75' definitely feel underused, I bet that thing hits true at 100 yards.

Can't wait for camping this summer. Unless we continue on with this winter drought thing from last year and the forest service suspends target shooting again.

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Hey! At least bipartisan bickering and rhetoric ends today, right? Even radio is tough to muster with all of the coverage. Looks like an Ancient Aliens marathon day. And cleaning guns!!!
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 #298684  by TrueBlue
 
Considering a Dupage Trading M1 Garand. Really like the beautiful furniture on that rifle, they ship with new American black walnut stocks.
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 #298745  by mabraham
 
An M1 shouldn't fall under the Safe Act. I would try to find one in .308 win.

Are you going to have to register the AUG and pin the mags?
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 #298775  by TrueBlue
 
My mags are already pinned at our previous level of 10 rds, which still stays legal, so long as I only load 7 rds into them... unless at I'm at a range, and then I can load ten. :bang Can you tell this act was rushed through? Most of it makes no sense. They even forgot to initially exempt police officers from this act!

So far as registration... :nocom That's half the reason I want the Garand, it's old enough to be exempt.

Last night, my county decided they were going to vote on whether or not to officially oppose the act. Next meeting is at the County Court on February 14th, debating if I want to take a half-day and go there.
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 #298782  by Bill Putney
 
I figure this is all preparation to signing a treaty with the UN (Agenda 21) when/if Hillary gets elected in 2016 - she's been working in the background with them on it all along. Getting all ownership documented is a major step. Does anybody recall why the founders thought it so important to guarantee the right to bear arms in the first place? Now that we're in post-Constitutional America, no one seems to be mentioning that.
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 #298785  by 300maximilien
 
Bill Putney wrote:Does anybody recall why the founders thought it so important to guarantee the right to bear arms in the first place?

To limit the power of the Gov't...
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